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New Bonhoeffer Facebook Forum

Hello everyone. It has been a long time since I have blogged. I want to thank Craig Slane for resurrecting this blog area. I hope to do some blogging in the fall! But first, I'd like to announce a new Facebook discussion group for Bonhoeffer, started by J.W. Wartwick. It would be great to have some robust discussion, so I hope people will participate. The address is below:

The Dietrich Bonhoeffer forum: https://www.facebook.com/groups/327047571375635/

I also include my post, a response to J.W's, as J.W. brought up so many of the central issues we are up against with understanding Bonhoeffer. These revolve around anachronism: his time not being our time. To me, the challenge of trying to truly understand (rather than appropriate) someone who defies our easy—should I say "cheap" categories?—is one of our most important tasks if we want to get to the heart of Bonhoeffer's theology. My post:

I agree that Bonhoeffer can't be taken out of context. I agree too that he was very vehemently opposed to Nazism, and he wrote against the kind of empty social gospel church he encountered through Union Theological, much preferring the presence of the spirt he felt at the Abyssinian Baptist Church. He is a difficult figure for any group to "own" and this what I find fascinating about him. What can we learn from how he defies our "slots?" He was also, at the end of his life, very frustrated with churches that would not embrace the here and now--and this seems on the surface like an embrace of the social gospel--"let's jump in for social justice--" but it's definitely not that. Grappling with what it means to live in present moment--the center of the village rather than focused on the afterlife--engaged in the world but not overtly politically--what does that mean? How does the spirit become central to that? 

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Guest - Diane Reynolds (website) on Friday, 20 December 2019 13:43

Dear Guest,

If you contact jwwartick@gmail.com, who set up the Bonhoeffer Facebook page he would be glad to help you: he is a great guy. I agree with you on FB forums and have thinking that one of my hopes for the New Year is to reinvigorate that forum (and this): I have been extremely busy with other things, but Bonhoeffer is central to my heart and a touchstone for so much else.

Thanks for being in touch, Diane

Dear Guest, If you contact jwwartick@gmail.com, who set up the Bonhoeffer Facebook page he would be glad to help you: he is a great guy. I agree with you on FB forums and have thinking that one of my hopes for the New Year is to reinvigorate that forum (and this): I have been extremely busy with other things, but Bonhoeffer is central to my heart and a touchstone for so much else. Thanks for being in touch, Diane
Guest - Lucy Gonzales on Thursday, 11 June 2020 00:31

Me parece muy interesante la vida de este pastor luterano Dietrich Bonhoeffer... si era o no gay si bien no me parece lo más importante, causa curiosidad... en fin, que pienso que en cualquier caso, era una persona coherente y auténtica, pues tengo entendido que murió célibe... también creo entender a qué se refiere cuando habla de un Cristianismo sin religión... pues a Dios nos debe unir una relación, una comunión, mas no una religión, que lo que hace es dividir a la humanidad... sobre todo en estos tiempos...

Me parece muy interesante la vida de este pastor luterano Dietrich Bonhoeffer... si era o no gay si bien no me parece lo más importante, causa curiosidad... en fin, que pienso que en cualquier caso, era una persona coherente y auténtica, pues tengo entendido que murió célibe... también creo entender a qué se refiere cuando habla de un Cristianismo sin religión... pues a Dios nos debe unir una relación, una comunión, mas no una religión, que lo que hace es dividir a la humanidad... sobre todo en estos tiempos...
Guest - Diane Reynolds on Sunday, 14 June 2020 19:33


I have provided a Google translation of the Lucy's comment:
I find the life of this Lutheran pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer very interesting ... whether or not he was gay, although it does not seem to me the most important thing, it causes curiosity ... anyway, I think that in any case, he was a coherent and authentic person Well, I understand that he died celibate ... I also think I understand what he means when he talks about a Christianity without religion ... because God must be united by a relationship, a communion, but not a religion, which what he does is divide humanity ... especially in these times ...

Diane

I have provided a Google translation of the Lucy's comment: I find the life of this Lutheran pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer very interesting ... whether or not he was gay, although it does not seem to me the most important thing, it causes curiosity ... anyway, I think that in any case, he was a coherent and authentic person Well, I understand that he died celibate ... I also think I understand what he means when he talks about a Christianity without religion ... because God must be united by a relationship, a communion, but not a religion, which what he does is divide humanity ... especially in these times ... Diane
Guest - Diane Reynolds on Sunday, 14 June 2020 19:37

Lucy,
I agree that whether or not Bonhoeffer was gay was not the most important thing--it is of interest to me in that for him the personal was theological and the theological personal, and I see in his theological gesture toward polyphony an attempt to find a layer for close friendship in people's life as something to be celebrated and made visible.
Diane

Lucy, I agree that whether or not Bonhoeffer was gay was not the most important thing--it is of interest to me in that for him the personal was theological and the theological personal, and I see in his theological gesture toward polyphony an attempt to find a layer for close friendship in people's life as something to be celebrated and made visible. Diane
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